In episode 136, Dorie Conlon Perugini interviews Dr. Uju Anya on a range of topics related to the experiences of African-American language learners both in classrooms and in study abroad contexts. The two scholars discuss Uju’s award-winning book, bias and inclusion in the language classroom, and why the concept of investment is more useful than motivation for analyzing student engagement.

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Show Notes

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Dr. Uju Anya is Assistant Professor of Second Language Education in the College of Education of The Pennsylvania State University. Uju began her career as a college Spanish and Portuguese language lecturer, and is now a language teacher trainer and supervisor of
doctoral students doing language teaching/learning research. You an reach out to Uju on Twitter @UjuAnya or by email

Dorie Conlon Perugini is an elementary Spanish teacher at Glastonbury Public Schools and a Doctoral Student at the University of Connecticut. You can find her on Twitter @doriecp or on her blog or her facebook group centered on intercultural competence.


Check out these resources mentioned on this episode…

…Here is Uju’s award-winning book

…Uju co-authored this piece called Diversifying Language Educators and Learners with previous podcast guest, Dr. L.J. Randolph! It’s a must-read!

…Want to learn more about Norton’s concept of investment? Check out this Norton & De Costa article that explores identity and investment.

…And for more on African-American students in World Language Classrooms, here is another piece written by Uju and published in the Annual Review of Applied Linguistics


If you want to cite this episode, our suggested APA reference is:
Conlon Perugini, D. (Interviewer), & Johnson, S.M. (Producer). (2020). We Teach Languages Episode 136: Speaking Blackness in Brazil, Identity, and Investment with Uju Anya [Audio podcast]. Retrieved from



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